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Topic Title: HRT
Topic Summary: HRT and hairloss
Created On: 03/13/2018 05:06 PM
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 03/13/2018 05:06 PM
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taco
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So over the past 10 yrs i have had 4 surgeries and have not been able to work out
I just am about to be able to work out again
some of my friends have been doing hrt and the results are good
At age 55 ivelimited my loss to a nw 2
my concern is if i do decide to go with hrt is there anyoe has done this here?
Did it increase your hair loss?
 03/13/2018 09:07 PM
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It will raise your testosterone and you will lose more hair, it's simple. I would just workout without taking steroids, depends on what you value more. Hair or muscles? Drugs like fin and dut will make your body soft and gain more fat. If anything I would actually switch to a topical and your testosterone levels should raise a little and will help with gaining muscle. If you have the cash for HGH, I'd go that route.
 03/14/2018 02:01 AM
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Testosterone levels having steadily declined in men as well as fertility rates. Meanwhile cancer rates have steadily risen.

Much safer to change your lifestyle and be healthy long term.

Much like hair it's the long term results that matter the most.

But like any other type of medications offered by the industry it becomes a personal choice. So good luck to you.

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 03/14/2018 04:35 PM
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taco
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thanks guys
was afraid that would be the case
I was born with bad genetics can gain strenth with a decent work out but am always battling a high body fat percentage
My diet is pretty good and with some work i can really focus in on it
a friend of mine at work is a trainer ad can help me out

was wondering if any one here had ever used hgh before
 03/21/2018 10:16 AM
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Taco,


Are you still just using Minox? Did you also use fin in your past regimen? Just tell me about your treatment history, I remember reading posts awhile back where you indicated that you maintained on minox alone.

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 03/24/2018 10:32 AM
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taco
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Z99X

Just minox right now
still maintaining at NW2
I had surgery about a year ago and for about 6 months didnt use anything but had no loss
started minox again back in Nov
 03/26/2018 02:13 AM
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HRT isn't good news for your hair bud, unless maybe if you look into a CRTH2 antagonist like OC000459, TM30089 or Ramatroban, as well as a TH2 cytokine blocker, like singular or accolate.


Personally, I believe that if you combine TM30089 with singulair, you can play around with all the HRT you want. Within reason.

Although the CRTH2 antagonist TM30089 alone substantially inhibited IL-13 production in response to both exogenous and endogenous PGD2 and LTE4, a combination of TM30089 and montelukast was required to completely inhibit the response.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3272457/


In other words, if you completely block the MPB response to androgens in begin with, you can pump as much testosterone into your hair as you want. Although I'm taking these 2 drugs I've yet to experiment with how they hold up against anabolics. Your call, my friend. But I must say, it's a calculated risk.

If I were you, I'd take testosterone with a 5ar inhibitor, preventing the conversion to DHT, which really mucks up your hair.

In my opinion, I think you'd be perfectly safe with testosterone supplementation if you take Fin/Dut, TM and Singulair as a buffer. In either case, test is more anabolic than DHT in regards to building muscles.

Hair aside, blocking DHT and the subsequent test rise will work to your advantage in building muscle.

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 03/26/2018 11:42 AM
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A very well known hair transplant doctor has recently died from pancreatic cancer. It rings a bell because a friend of our family was just diagnosed last year and she didn't last the prognosis of 11 months she died at 9 months. I would suggest staying away from anything that screws with your endocrine system. All the hair or all the money in the world is useless if you are dead. Stay away from it is the best advice. You don't need it. Your life does not depend on it.

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Stay away from doctors who perform mega sessions, have posts deleted, attack posters, sue patients & forum owners, use power drills or robots. I recommend fue with hand punches in the .70-.85 range. I consulted with dozens of clinics over the years and there was a recurring theme regarding FUE among some employees of those other clinics. I was told Bisanga was the man my research told me the same and my experience validated my own research.
 03/26/2018 04:48 PM
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Guys thanks for the replies
Harlt12 i'm going to have to look up all the info yousent me not familiar with any of that stuff

Always value the opions here
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